While it is your prerogative since it is your blog, there are other legitimate treatment methods that do incorporate the word and there is nothing wrong with it. Your use of “we” in your comment doesn’t make sense to me because you’re the only one to push the issue. And I mentioned several times RC2’s behavior that justifies him being put out. I hope you can now see why I saw a joke in the typo. I was laughing at the double-entendre of the typo.
Learn more or donate today at crossway.org/about. Stephen J. Nichols serves as the president of Reformation Bible College and chief academic officer of Ligonier Ministries. He has written over twenty books and is an editor of the Theologians on the Christian Life series. He also hosts the weekly podcast 5 Minutes in Church History. The first day of his studies, he spent 12 hours getting through one page of one of his textbooks.
Met Vesta, the love of his life, when he was in the first grade and she was in the second grade. He is the father of eight and grandfather of one. Sproul’s resignation and arrest come just over a year after he was suspended by the board of Ligonier Ministries for visiting the adultery website Ashley Madison in a “moment of weakness” in 2014. Court records show that an initial hearing of the case was held Dec. 7 when a bond of $5,000 was also issued. On Tuesday, an order for monitored conditional release was entered by the Allen Superior Court 4’s Pretrial Services Division. And on Wednesday, an appearance was filed by another Sproul attorney, Patrick Justin Arata.
The church, after all, is neither more nor less than the people of God. Where God has a people, there is the church. I have noticed in recent years a great upsurge in objections to the objective truth to what we are. Anytime I speak of the believer as a sinner, let alone a miserable sinner, I can always count on someone to come along behind and chasten me for forgetting how God sees us. They will, happily, often do so by reminding me of the great truths of the gospel.
RC Sproul Jr has experienced tragedy in his life.
I think someone here posted a video about cults and manipulative control. The point of the video was that, people who are manipulatively controlled don’t realize they’re being controlled. I don’t think the wife is somehow contributing to the situation. She was told she’s a worthless sex slave. They will refuse to promise her protection should it happen again.
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I don’t know if it’s a church’s responsibility or not to pressure or cajole someone with a problem into some kind of treatment. Same in books on domestic violence – those who are experts on DV will tell readers don’t waste time bringing your abusive husband into marriage counseling, because marriage counseling is ineffective at treating abuse. One of the only reasons I came back to this thread was to add something about your insistence on people getting treatment .
He loved art, architecture, literature, and film. He took piano lessons when he was young, but always admired and aspired to the violin. In 2004, Saint Andrew’s Chapel opened the doors of the Saint Andrew’s Conservatory. Was one of the first students—for the violin. In a statement releasedby Ligonier Ministries on Monday, the organization said the younger Sproul was removing himself from ministry for “personal reasons” but made no mention of his arrest. February 14, 2021, Sproul inaugurated his newest church,Sovereign Grace Fellowshipin Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Of course he needs treatment, but there are far more people harmed by his chronic abuse behavior from his position behind the pulpit as pastor. To me, the urgency should be to get him out of ministry leadership entirely. My specific concern about Barbara’s comment, and others like it, is that’s NOT how substance abusers are supposed to be handled, or for that matter their families. Yes, job loss should happen for Sproul 2, but with the church directing him and supporting him into treatment. This is interesting…to read his reasoning. I actually completely agree that there is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol in moderation.
There was a need for “push back”, since in the beginning you never outlined your reasons supporting R.C. So I’ll start to believe that RC is repentant when he contacts me personally to confess and chinalove com repent of all the damage he caused me and my family. I’ll also know when I start to hear from some of the others he did the same to and they let me know he’s confessed and repented to them too.
You didn’t, however, explain your reasoning for such a drastic step. That’s why I gave you push back, because a lot more is at stake than just him and how this is handled. She did not show that she had no clue. She just didn’t mention it, and she didn’t need to. You are insisting on everyone saying treatment for alcoholics is the way to go .
There is a reason that throughout time that isolation and solitary confinement have been used in just about every culture to break people. I would take it that an alcoholic would have that same experience if they went to the same sort of churches I did. For several decades the 12 step model/solution has been the dominant one in US treatment facilities. It seems to be getting some challenges now. I’m not expert enough to know what the truth is in that area.
Plenty of people who are Christians still have serious medical problem and still need medical care and other care. Why do you feel it’s necessary to malign a godly servant like RC Sproul as if he is in some way responsible for his grown sons actions! He has been through enough pain without your unfounded accusations and threats even that if his son hurts someone it will be on his head .
That’s why a organization like the Roy’s Report is so important. It helps to bring some accountability to people and organizations that usually operate with none – simply by reporting on them. With better information, people can make informed choices about who they support and who they don’t. His sins have, however, disqualified him from Christian leadership.